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Post by Blaze on Jan 6, 2012 21:38:49 GMT -5
This is a thread to state the truth about both pairings. If I see any flaming, I give the admins permission to lock the thread. Also, only respond if you have any comments or own observations about either or both pairing. NOT to just support your pairing and how it's better.Before an arguement starts up, I think I'm just gonna give my opinion. I like LuckTone, always have. But I won't deny that Buster and Two-Tone would be a compatible pairing. There's no doubt TT wouldn't feel attracted to him. The reason she liked Mooch in the first place (theoretically speaking, of course) was because he was a "bad boy" and seemed like he had a lot of power and respect on the farm. And what did she want? The same thing. He also was different, not being a dalmatian, which could of made Two-Tone like him better. So if Two-Tone met Buster, a big bad rottie mix who owns a junkyard and the streets basically, there's no doubt she wouldn't like him for his power and looks. And Buster would like her too, she being quite pretty for a dalmatian and young too. They would make an interesting couple. Of course, Bustone has it flaws too. There's the giant age gap, and truthfully Buster wouldn't make a very good boyfriend at all. There would definitely be some major bumps in the road if they had a relationship, some which I don't think are portrayed in their fandom at all and need to be addressed. One for example, is how Two-Tone likes attention and being given affection almost always. Buster would put himself and his junkyard before her, even if he loved her. That's just one of the flaws he has. And that would leave a very annoyed Two-Tone of course. Now the thing about LuckTone. Seeing that TT is his sister in canon, it is strange how they decided to put Lucky with Two-Tone in a romantic episode together. Then again, it would make sense for Lucky to have a crush on her. She's one of the prettiest pups on the farm. Now Two-Tone, after being rejected by Mooch, probably saw that Lucky was well known around the farm and not only was looked up to, but well liked as well. So yes, she could of been using him, found herself attracted to him, or both. Then again, I think the only reason the animators put them together was because they would make a good scenario for an episode. Remember, the show was meant for audiences of mainly younger children, so most of them wouldn't understand or realize there was ant incest at all. But everyone is right, all of the following episodes with bothof them didn't show much or any affection between the two of them whatsoever, maybe just to be safe. So there. Both pairings have their issues. LuckTone is part of the same show making it closer to canon, and bustone is a cross pairing that would work out well. Although neither would work (selerate movies, incest) that's what fandom is for, am i right? I hope I enlightened the whole argument somewhat. And I hope my argument is fair enough.
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Post by Luisa on Jan 6, 2012 21:48:54 GMT -5
Hmm, okay, my go. BustTone has its pros and cons. He is, indeed, much older than her. But does it really matter? People ship ScootaDash. Scootaloo's around eight and Dash's sixteen Then we have the agression thing. Buster's probably a bit impulsive for Tone's tastes and lives in a dirty place she maybe wouldn't like if we talk about the cannon Two-Tone, not the Mary Sue she has been made by some people. Then, its pros. As you said, Tones seeks for a bad and powerfull guy in a mate. She'd be easily charmed by Buster's cunning and determined attitude, and I bet she'd like her back as well. Again, does age have an influence? Nope. Buster liked Angel. Did anyone consider it pedophilia? Nope. Why should BustTone be any different? Now, on to LuckTone. I don't find them compatible. Adventurous hero and lazy bad girl? Combined? No thanks. Lucky'd rather go on with someone for the same adveture tastes that him- Say, Gay for example. "Twilight Bark" stated she was as smart as Lucky, which probably meant as mischeavous. Is TT mischeavous? Not at all. Then the four-legged ball. Why not see it as botherly love? She wanted Two-Tone to feel appreciated since Mooch dumped her, and out of sibling love decided to ask her our. His shame in being pink was obviosly because his sister could make fun of him. What would your sibling do if you woke up with pink hair? Exactly. "I love you in any color" could mean as a sister. A good sister would tell her brother just that; "I don't give a damn about how you look, you are my brother and I love you." But, of course, people take it romantically. I see it only as a sibling relationship, honestly.
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Post by twotone on Jan 6, 2012 21:49:58 GMT -5
it is fair enough from one Lucktone fan to another. Though don't get me wrong I won't stop liking Lucktone even if everybody else seems to ignore it for Lebecca which I feel wouldn't work without either a huge sacrifice from Lucky or Rebecca, for Rebecca it would be her family and we all know since Rebecca is freed from the curse she chose to be with her family to protect them from Judge Dimmsdale de Vil since she's the only one who's consious to his evil (since the other citizens of De vilville are still under the eternal bliss of the curse)
For Lucky, it's obvious he'd be sacrificing his own family. and TV, and the other modern conviences he'd be missing if he stood in De vilville with Rebecca. Not to mention Lucky would have to be around to protect his family from Cruella. Which makes Lebecca impossible to happen other than within that episode "De Village Elder"
But I'll get off that now since I'm going off topic. But as Lyra said the age gap makes this couple wrong in my eyes too, not to mention the fact Buster would be too possesive of Two-tone which would make her leave him just as Angel did in Lady and the Tramp 2. That and Two-Tone in cannon wouldn't be caught dead in the junkyard since she values her look, and Luisa is right on one thing, Buster is aggressive since he's been a junkyard dog all his life. Even if he and Two-Tone did have pups he'd raise them all to be aggressive like himself without Two-tone having a say in it. Needless to say he'd scare her rather than love her.
as for Lucktone, I believe Two-Tone and Lucky did infact love each other and not the sibling kind of way either, Two-Tone was excited over Lucky being a star in "Prima Doggy" she even asked for his autograph. Lucky and Two-Tone stood together in "Prophet and Loss" to get advice from Cadpig (lucky asked about his bone collection, it's unknown what Two-Tone asked for) and of course there's the best episode of the series (even better than DeVillage Elder) "Love em and Flea em" where Two-Tone and Lucky go on their first date. And let's not forget Tones being solo in the background of many episodes showing she indeed left Mooch's gang ("Walk on the Wildside" is a good example of this since the only gang members picking on Rolly happened to be Mooch, Dipstick, and Wizzer which indicates Two-Tone left Mooch by then and besides she wouldn't stick around after the events of "My Fair Moochie" since Mooch dated Cadpig in that ep) I see that Lucktone has a better chance of happening than Busttone. Besides I doubt Disney would have ever used Gay since her name even though it's a form of happiness is also considered a racial slur toward homosexuals which explains why they paired Lucky with Two-Tone in the first place
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Post by PinkZombiez/Nasira on Jan 6, 2012 22:06:20 GMT -5
To be honest, LuckTone and BusTone never bothered me. Incest between canines isn’t uncommon (they don’t care) and yes, Buster is older than TwoTone, but give it a couple of months and she’ll be an adult. Then again, I’m over-thinking it. Disney is different from real life and we’re talking about animals given human traits. Personality-wise, my opinion differs slightly. As mentioned above, I could see TwoTone going after someone like Buster-he's a sweet-talking, carefree monarch of a dog. What's not to like about a canine with such a 'powerful' position in the pack? On the other hand, Buster lives in a junkyard. TwoTone is a little too glamorous to be living in filth-but that could be overlooked if executed correctly. As for TwoTone, I think Luisa's theory sounds logical. Even though I don't know the intentions of that episode, I can see where Luisa is coming from with the brother-sister relationship. Monarch vs. Adventurer? Two-Tone may most likely pick the Monarch because that's the kind of dog she is.
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Post by Blaze on Jan 6, 2012 22:07:15 GMT -5
LuisaAge gap, as you've said, doesn't create much of a problem. But it's typically frowned upon in society, so it would be included in a list of cons. For Lucktone, you do bring a loint that it could of been brotherly love. But in that episode, Two-Tone pictured him as knight with hearts floating around him. Even if he did that just to make her feel better I don't think she took it the same way. XD And to the ending of the episode, they were enclosed in a heart before it ended. I'm not just saying this because I like Lucktone, because I find it rather disgusting without tweaking canon to make them not related. Like I said, the animators most likely put them together because it would make an interesting episode. Not because they intended them to be a real couple. @two-Tone I think Buster wouldn't be very possesive of her. The reason why Angel left Buster and disliked him was because she didn't like his attitude or the way he treated her like queen of the junkyard by being his "girl." In fact, Buster didn't care id she fot capture by the dog catcher. I don't think that's very possesive. Two-Tone, on the other hand, would rather like his bad boy attitude and being ruler over something. Even if it's a dirty junkyard. Angel and TT just have differen views and types of what they like in a guy.
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Post by Luisa on Jan 6, 2012 22:10:47 GMT -5
@lyra- Then again, if I had a big brother I'd see him as a knight in shining armor. WHo protects you when your boyfriend breaks up with you? A big brother. Who prevents you from being harmed? A big brother. Who can act possessive over you at times to the point of ACTING like your boyfriend? A big brother.
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Post by Blaze on Jan 6, 2012 22:15:08 GMT -5
LuisaI see your point. But obviously...I just don't think that was the relationship intentions for that episode. Besides, most siblings don't see eachother to the point of seeing hearts around them or wanting them to act like boy/girlfriend. And wouldn't yourhink if they did intend for that, they would choose Cadpig instead for that role? If they were trying to send that message they wouldn't choose a backgroun character but most likely a main one.
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Post by Luisa on Jan 6, 2012 22:18:57 GMT -5
*shrug* Fine if you wanna see it like that, I guess. Incest is still more disturbing than pedophillia to me XD
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Post by twotone on Jan 6, 2012 22:19:18 GMT -5
@lyra - I agree with you there. If they intended for Lucky to have a girlfriend they would have went with Cadpig as she was the only main female character in the series but they decided to give Two-Tone a chance and it worked well (till Rebecca appeared in DeVillage Elder but again that was a one shot deal and Rebecca stayed behind to protect her family from Dimmsdale de Vil) and Lucky was seen with Two-Tone more times than she was with Mooch.
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Post by twotone on Jan 6, 2012 22:21:22 GMT -5
and for the record I still think Pedophllia is more disturbing than incest but thats my opinion
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Post by Luisa on Jan 6, 2012 22:22:35 GMT -5
STOP ARGUING WITH ME. I don't want this thread to be locked but you are pushing my buttons.
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Post by twotone on Jan 6, 2012 22:51:39 GMT -5
I wasn't arguing with you, I was stating my opinion
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Post by Paws on Jan 6, 2012 23:01:18 GMT -5
Guys.
Stop it now.
While I think the thread was a good idea, I foresaw this going downhill fast.
Knock it off, guys. Two-Tone, I think you're getting a strike for this. We have to run it by Kitexa first.
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Post by twotone on Jan 6, 2012 23:03:08 GMT -5
Paws don't strike me for what Luisa started. I shouldn't have let her draw me into drama.
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Post by Mizan on Jan 6, 2012 23:03:54 GMT -5
I'm honestly not here nor there about BustTone. I just think they fit better together. Buster just seems like the type of guy Two-Tone would go after and want to be with to me.
Lucky ... well... honestly I do think they are cute, in a way. But maybe more if they weren't related. I like the angst verse more because the story is more gritty and realistic.. given that the animals had human standards and hated them for the incest. xD
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